Talk:Miraculous Tag Team Super Saiyan Goten and Super Saiyan Trunks/@comment-27885372-20181104151805

I would like a Gotenks that transform into each form upon time. Like if the enemy is pretty weak and can't get you under 80% after 3 turn, Goten and Trunks SSJ would go Base and fuse into Base Gotenks. But if they are under 80%, they would eventually transform into Gotenks SSJ.

And based on how much damage he take, Gotenks SSJ would me more based on offense or on defense. If he appear at the begin of the turn with less than 50% HP, he would go to SSJ3 which is tanky and really powerful.

But don't mind me, just some proposition about things you could do with a Gotenks character.

Goten and Trunks SSJ :

SA (No Rainbow/Only Ki boost and 1 TEC) : 14700*4.4*2.2*1.45*1.5*5.8 = 1.795.064

SA (No Rainbow/Only Ki boost and 1 TEC) : 14700*4.4*2.2*1.45*1.5*6.1 = 1.887.912

SA (2 Ki Rainbow and 1 TEC) : 14700*4.4*2.8*1.45*1.5*5.8 = 2.284.626

SA (2 Ki Rainbow and 1 AGL) : 14700*4.4*2.8*1.45*1.5*6.1 = 2.402.797

SA (4 Ki Rainbow and 1 TEC) : 14700*4.4*3.4*1.45*1.5*5.8 = 2.774.189

SA (4 Ki Rainbow and 1 AGL) : 14700*4.4*3.4*1.45*1.5*6.1 = 2.917.682

I would prevail taking TEC Ki to have that high chance to stun honestly. They look OP, but since they would not be able to use their SA if they doesn't take TEC or AGL Ki, it balance the character. (Even if it's really rare to not get any of these color)

DEF : 10469*4.4*2.2 = 101.339

DEF (2 Ki Rainbow) : 10469*4.4*2.8 = 128.978

DEF (4 Ki Rainbow) : 10469*4.4*3.4 = 156.616

Gotenks SSJ :

His boost is actually useful if the enemy can be stunned, without couting the fact that his SA stun and if he isn't Super Effective, he stun unconditionally. The bad thing is that you need to attack first to active the SA or the passive. Massive = 570% (because it doesn't exist and you didn't explain how much it was of a boost) (Btw, Super Effective doesn't actually exist, it's just Effective)

Disavantage : 14700*4.4*2.5*1.45*1.5*6.45*0.5 = 1.134.224 After ATK : 1.701.336

Neutral : 14700*4.4*2.5*1.45*1.5*6.45 = 2.268.448 After ATK : 3.402.673

Advantage : 14700*4.4*2.5*1.45*1.5*6.45*1.5 = 3.402.673 After SA (If the enemy is stunnable) : 5.104.009 (Now that's a lot of damage !)

DEF : 10469*4.4*2.5 = 115.159

The fact that even if he deal a Crit, you'll still unconditionally stun is really good too.