Talk:Flaming Saiyan God Super Saiyan God Goku/@comment-27885372-20181011180403

I saw Momdad saying he was a downgrade, i laughed honestly but it's pretty accurate that he get some kind of a downgrade because he miss that Warrior God link.

But he is an LR Godku so i can only think that's cool.

SA (First) : 20322*4.4*1.5*1.65*2*1.5*5.3 = 3.518.775 With Bardock SSJ3 : 20322*4.4*1.9*1.65*2*1.5*5.3 = 4.457.114

SA (Third) : 20322*4.4*1.5*1.65*2*1.5*5.9 = 3.917.126 With Bardock SSJ3 : 20322*4.4*1.9*1.65*2*1.5*5.9 = 4.961.693

Hum... That's a huge downgrade effectively. And we are only talking of his SA actually, and his raw stats, no Crit or type advantage boost on the enemy.

USA (First) : 20322*4.4*1.5*1.65*2*1.7*6.7 = 5.041.363 With Bardock SSJ3 : 20322*4.4*1.9*1.65*2*1.7*6.7 = 6.385.727

USA (Second + 3 SA) : 20322*4.4*1.5*1.65*2*1.7*(6.45+0.3*3+0.25*2) = 5.906.672 With Bardock SSJ3 : 20322*4.4*1.9*1.65*2*1.7*(6.45+0.3*3+0.25*2) = 7.481.785

DEF : 12792*4.4*1.5 = 84.427

DEF (SA + After 1 SA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.5*1.3 = 164.633 DEF (After 1 SA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.3 = 109.755

DEF (SA + After 3 SA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.5*1.9 = 240.617 DEF (After 3 SA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.9 = 160.411

DEF (USA + After 1 USA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.7*1.25 = 179.407 DEF (After 1 USA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.25 = 105.534

DEF (USA + After 2 USA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.7*1.5 = 215.289 DEF (After 2 USA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.5 = 126.640

DEF (USA + After 2 USA and 3 SA) : 12792*4.4*1.5*1.7*(1+0.3*3+0.25*2) = 344.462 DEF (With Mystic Gohan) : 12792*4.4*2*1.7*(1+0.3*3+0.25*2) = 459.283

I don't know why, i don't feel like he is a downgrade... The fact that he gives ATK and DEF +25% to all allies for 3 turns is quite OP, making folks like Vegito able to have a DEF boost of 1.5X right away, with a 1.5X to their counter damage.

Although his links being pretty easy to active (playing him with Miggate no CAC is the best option), he would need to be played in the middle to benefit of the more Ki possible and of the Super Saiyan link he miss, the best would be to play him with an SSJ that give ATK, DEF and Ki... maybe SSJ3 Goku ?