Talk:Scorching Roar of Super Fusion Super Saiyan 4 Goku & Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta/@comment-27885372-20180820171021

I'll say they have 100 more in ATK than Goku UFPSSJ4 and 100 more in DEF than Vegeta SSJ4, high chance is 50%, great chance is 70%.

Greatly raises ATK is 50%, Massively raises ATK is 100%, 12 Ki Mult is 150%.

SA (1st 12 Ki, No 11 Ki, 100% HP) : 17586*4.4*2.7*1.65*1.5*(5.8+1) = 3.516.152

SA (3rd 12 Ki, 1 11 Ki, 80% HP) : 17586*4.4*2.8*1.65*1.5*(5.8+1*3+0.5) = 4.986.961

Counter : 17586*4.4*2.7*1.65*1.5*3 = 1.551.243

Counter (1 12 Ki) : 17586*4.4*2*2.7*1.65*1.5*3 = 3.102.487

Counter (3 12 Ki, 1 11 Ki, 80% HP) 17586*4.4*4.5*2.8*1.65*1.5*3 = 7.239.136

Damage per turn (Hit twice before and twice after, 100% HP) : (3516152+3516152*1.9*0.3)+((3516152+3516152*1.9*0.3)+(1034162+1034162*1.9*0.3))/2+((3516152+3516152*1.9*0.3)+(1034162+1034162*1.9*0.3))/2 = 12.664.352+(((1551243+1551243*1.9*0.3)+(3516152+3516152*1.9*0.3))/2)*0.7 = 15.448.886

DEF : 10970*4.4*2.7 = 130.324

Another amazing cards without having a too broken passive ! Great job, just be a bit more precise with 12 Ki mult, ATK and DEF in SA, chances and stats and it'll be perfect :D