Thread:WiMod/@comment-36826475-20181009142055/@comment-27885372-20181009182816

Yeah you seems to be a good Power Scaler Digimon. I think UI Goku isn't actually UI, it's more like a form that make you use UI.

If Goku had really the Ultra Instinct, then he wouldn't lose stamina by using it or something and he wouldn't get stronger physically speaking. (The fact that he got OS by Kefla in SSB Kaioken and he stomp her in one Kamehameha after she got immensively stronger is an argument too)

About your calculation, pretty much everything is right, except that you didn't take in fact that the Universe isn't just the Heaven, the Hell and the Universe. Goku could have destroy the whole Universe, including the Void between the Universe and the Kaioshin Realm (which is as huge as the normal Universe) which make me think you'll need to be able to destroy at least 10 times the DB Universe (which is himself 10 times bigger than our universe) to be able to destroy the DB Macrocosm. (There is not calculation behing this tho, just some "logical" head-canon)

Too, Cell was not about to destroy the Sun, but the entire Solar System which would need more strenght to do so. What i meant to say is that it's not only a question of mass, it's a question of distance too, if you want to destroy the entire Solar System, i'll say that you need to be 10 times stronger than able to destroy the Sun. In a logical way of mass = power, it make no sense, but in physic it have some.

The thing sad with ToP is that it's not scalable for me, due to too much Zenkai and forms that does't make any type of sense, Jiren forms for example are unscalable, because he could be tremendously/infinitively stronger than before but we have no statement to know that. Even stating base form Jiren is hard, due to the fact that we don't know how strong GoD really are, and how much stronger than them he is. It's a based on what you think is the good thing.

That's why there is so many debate, it's because there is no real answer.

Btw, we doesn't even know what are the prerequisites to gain more Power Level. Is that based on your speed ? Isn't your speed based on your Power Level ? Is that based on your resistance ? Isn't your resistance based o your Power Level ?

All of this is really difficult to say so don't give it too much attention, just do what you think is the most logic for you.

For example, to me, SSJ4 multiplier is based on some kind of evolution, as SSJ3 was 2X2 SSJ2, SSJ4 is 4X4 SSJ3 and SSJ5 is a probable 16X16 SSJ4. Instead of saying that it's just a times two previous form multiplier, i think it's more evolution like.