Talk:Heaven's Harbinger Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta/@comment-27885372-20190208173122

This dude is gonna get an LR while he is already that strong... I mean, he stun unconditionnaly, so you just have to use a perfect tank on the first spot and this dude is simply gonna make risk jauge go to nothingness.

I don't really see the point of giving him chance to stun on hit tho, maybe it's because he could not be able to launch an SA.

SA : 17108*4.4*2.2*1.5*1.5*5.8 = 2.161.151 As the 1st or 3rd attacker : from 2.652.322 to 3.241.726 (should be 3.2M)

And he hit like an absolute truck.

Counter : 17108*4.4*2.2*1.5*1.5*3 = 1.117.836 As the 1st or 3rd attacker : from 1.371.891 to 1.676.755

Even his counter is interesting if you don't manage to launch nor the SA, nor to stun with a normal, the Counter could do it based on how the Passive works.

DEF : 9743*4.4 = 42.869 As the 1st or 3rd attacker : 64.304 (With 30% Support : from 77.165 to 83.595)

It's the same since he doesn't have an original ATK boost, although if there is a support he get stronger if the boost is separated. (which it should anyway)

Pretty dang good, basically the king of the stunner, would be perfect with SSJ3 Vegeta too.