Talk:Pinnacle of Saiyan Power Goku (SSJ4) and Vegeta (SSJ4)/@comment-27885372-20180424181521

Basically better version of Goku and Vegeta SSJ4 and Gogeta SSJ4. Just like the Goku and Vegeta SSJ and Gogeta SSJ.

Non-Transformed :

USA : 22230*4.4*2.2*1.5*2*(6.2+0.75) = 4.48M

Counter :  22230*4.4*2.2*1.5*2*3 = 1.93M

Counter (after USA) : 22230*4.4*2.2*1.5*1.5*2*3 = 2.9M

DEF : 15140*4.4*2.2 = 146K

Okay, so, already in base (or SSJ4 if you like) they're absolute monster, over Goku SSJ3 in raw damage, without even counting the counter that is OP (but not actually really needed seens he tank SA in SBR for double digits : (400000*0.35)-146000 = 0)

Transformed :

Counter (Before USA) : 22230*4.4*2.8*1.5*2*3 = 2.46M

USA : 22230*4.4*2.8*1.5*2*6.95 = 5.7M, Super Effective : 8.56M

USA (1 stack SA) : 22230*4.4*2.8*1.5*2*7.25 = 5.95M, Super Effective : 8.93M

Counter (After USA) : 22230*4.4*2.8*1.5*1.5*2*3 = 3.7M, Super Effective : 5.54M

Counter (After USA + 1 stack SA) : 22230*4.4*2.8*1.8*1.5*2*3 = 4.43M, Super Effective : 6.65M

DEF : 15140*4.4*2.8 = 186K

DEF (After USA) : 15140*4.4*2.8*1.5 = 242K

DEF (After USA + 1 stack SA) : 15140*4.4*2.8*1.8 = 335K

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